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Movement Vista 84 broken ski

 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone here can offer an opinion or some advice. Weíve tried contacting Movement but they have been unresponsive. Glisshop, where we bought the skis, have also been unhelpful.

Basically my wife bought these Movement Vista 84 skis new in February and took them to Val Thorens over Easter. We were skiing on piste this week. After four days of fairly relaxed skiing, the top layer of the ski started coming apart and the wood core showing through. Hopefully the pictures are clear.

Glisshop, where we bought them, claimed there must have been a crash and impact with a rock. Now we know that didnít happen, but also the bases are completely unscratched. I canít see how this could happen without us realising, if the skis werenít faulty to begin with. The failure is pretty much all the way along the top sheet of the ski, is this a normal way for skis to fail? Can they be repaired?

Any thoughts would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Eamonn

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Looks like the topsheet cap is peeling away to me. Need not be a rock collision if they were nicked by the other ski or fell over on a ski rack etc etc. Probably largely cosmetic and nothing that a dollop of epoxy on the exposed area couldn't fix once you've cut back the loose topsheet. Your defence is intact edges if they are intact so I'd give Glisshop a bit more what for.
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sorry to heat this, were they bought on credit card? maybe that's another recourse
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A few pics and words on the movement fb page might cure their unresponsiveness
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Great, thanks very much for those ideas. I was a bit worried there was no hope for them. Will look into the credit card protection, and also try contacting them in a bit more public forum!
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@Efatri, nah, doesnít look to me like ďnaturalĒ wear and tear, e.g. collisions with other things, given the total apparent lack of collateral damage.

Give them all youíve got.
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That middle picture looks like something has caught the sidewall of the skis but I would have expected the cap to survive what looks like a relatively minor scrape. As the others have said, contacting the manufacturers on their social media pages might well you get you a better response from those responsible for maintaining their good reputation.
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I broke some movement red apples. They replaced them eventually but only after some pushing.
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The warranty claim you have is with Glissshop directly as the retailer.

Warranty issues can sometimes be problematic as you cannot always take the users version of events as gospel truth as they obviously want a replacement pair of skis.I am by no means suggesting that this is the case here but you have to try and see the woods through the trees.
This can be made even more difficult when you can't physically take them to the store you brought them from.

From looking at the images it looks as if the skis have clattered against each other and the edge has taken away part of the sidewall.
It would have taken quite an impact to cause the damage and my argument would be that the sidewall should be able to resist such an impact.
It's quite a straight forward repair and it would not effect the performance just won't look great.

I would keep on at Glisshop or failing that go down the Credit card route.
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willski17 wrote:
The warranty claim you have is with Glissshop directly as the retailer......

And that's the risk you take when buying overseas.
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Aye...

Glisshop donít have a shop front. They operate from the internet, and their business model is buying large quantities of whatever is left, storing in a warehouse miles out of town, and selling large quantities at low prices to turn a profit.

Spyderjon is a movement UK dealer. He operates a physical shop which you can actually walk into. If you call his shop, youíll speak to him personally and not a generic phone operator. So itís no surprise that his prices have to be higher, to cover the overheads or running a personable operation with a physical presence rather than a mail order system from the internet.

Youíve chosen to buy your skis from the internet, where thereís no physical presence or personable operation. But now somethingís gone wrong, you want a personal, physical response.

I hope you can see the problem there. This is the problem with the retail industry across the board. People want the best of both worlds, with a totally impersonal and faceless shopfront on the internet to buy from if it means saving a few quid, but then an actual person on the other end of the phone when things go wrong.

As I said, Jon is a movement dealer so maybe if you ask him really nicely and insist youíve learned your lesson etc etc he MIGHT be able to offer you some help (I donít know though, you do have to ask...).

What I do know is that I had a problem with a ski that Jon sold me, after briefly berating me for being a fat bar-steward he had the bindings off and boxed up, some replacement skis arranged, and once theyíve actually been made will mount my bindings on those - which Glisshop wonít do, even if they do replace the skis.

Iím not being a d1ck about it but you get what you pay for and if you buy the cheapest youíll get the cheapest.
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Being a big, cheap, online dealer isnít an excuse for crappy customer service though. There are plenty of big online stores who have really good service reputations Ė itís another reason to use them over ones that donít. Plenty more would be wise to up their game though.
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When cost savings are passed to the consumer, it happens in both respects.
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Ok, much as it would be nice if Glisshop were more helpful, I get that thereís no way to prove they werenít smashed into a rock. I donít really expect much from the retailer. To be honest, this is the first time weíve bought skis, after years and years of renting. We are just a bit gutted they appear to be trashed after 4 days use. Weíve certainly known about clipping skis weíve hired, but Iíve never had any damage like this. I was more looking for a bit of advice or thoughts on whether they are worth repairing or could be faulty and not worth spending any more on.

Jon - apologies, I didnít know about your business.

Equally, I didnít know Glisshop were the root of all evil. We did look around in ski shops near us, but they didnít have anything we wanted. Glisshop seemed to be the only place that had these available (although hardly discounted at all) with the frame touring bindings we wanted as an option so we decided to go for them. I guess we wonít make the same mistake again.

Anyway, cheers all.
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Just in case anyone searches and this thread pops back up, after a bit of pushing (using the Consumer Rights Act), in the end Glisshop replaced them.
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Efatri wrote:
Just in case anyone searches and this thread pops back up, after a bit of pushing (using the Consumer Rights Act), in the end Glisshop replaced them.

Well done for coming back. It's always nice to close the story and it's especially helpful here I feel as online retailers are obviously used by many.

I didn't see the original thread. I've used Glisshop and Ekosport to buy stuff and have no issues - though nothing has gone wrong as happened in your case. So it's good to hear they came through in the end.

Glisshop do have a physical shop, it's just not convenient for many. As indeed to be fair neither is Jon's.

I've always got the impression from the website they are an open and transparent retailer.
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