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Iím hoping to tap in to some of the knowledge here as Iím trying to organize four days at the end of January somewhere not too far from Munich.
Iíve been organizing short breaks for years now and have great knowledge of Italy and France so fancy a change but have only ever been to St Anton and Mayrhofen in Austria.
As we are flying from Dublin we are very limited to airports so itís Geneva, Bergamo or Munich with much better flight times to Bergamo and Munich.
There are usually 6-8 of us with a mix of skiers and boarders and we are all strong intermediate standard and are looking for accommodation thatís not a bus journey to the ski lifts. Access to the ski are and the quality are more important than apres ski but we all like a few beers too.
Iíve spent some time looking for accommodation in Ischgl, Saalbach and St Anton but so far no luck.
Any ideas greatly appreciated.
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I often suggest Kitzbuhel on this forum but it might work for you. I've stayed in apartments in Jochberg which is up the road from Kitzbuhel. There's a decent selection of accommodation in Kitzbuhel too. I'm surprised about Ischgl, have you contacted the tourist office? In Austria they're often v helpful. I've used Homeaway and interhome to book ski accommodation without any issues.
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@maddness, if you are determined to avoid a bus to the slopes then your options start to look a little limited. From Munich the obvious destination would be the Ski Welt, but buses are pretty much essential there except for Brixen as all of the lifts on the north side of the range are out of town.

For Saalbach/Hinterglemm you should be able to find something online at https://www.saalbach.com/saalbach-booking/MasterReq?AR=1&FL=100&LG=1&RA=2&AM=1&MB=0 but as always it depends on the dates - if you are trying to find a Friday to Monday option then it will be difficult as it wipes out two whole weeks of potential custom, so youíll need to leave it late.

The buses in all resorts are regular, quick, and really not the hassle you probably think they are - they open up a huge number of other options
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@maddness, If you're looking at a four day stay then this website often has accommodation available for less than a week: https://www.tiscover.com/
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kirchberg in tyrol is the other side of kitz mountain.
Can be a lot cheaper that kitz & you could always ski into Kitz for apres & catch a bus/taxi back... just dont leave your skis behind!
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@maddness, if you are determined to avoid a bus to the slopes then your options start to look a little limited. From Munich the obvious destination would be the Ski Welt, but buses are pretty much essential there except for Brixen as all of the lifts on the north side of the range are out of town.


No need for a bus in Westendorf either
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Thanks for the replyís, Iíll have a good look at some of the suggestions.
I know booking a week is much easier but due to family commitments we always do four days and finding reasonable accommodation is always a challenge.
We have skied most of Italy and a lot of France and just fancy something different. Iím going for another four days in December with a different group to Champoluc which is perfect but not twice within a month.
Any other suggestions from Bergamo?
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The Hahnenkamm race is on 25th/26th/27th, so you may or may not want to avoid kitz area for that weekend. SKI welt would be a good bet, but if you want the best in Apres its got to be St Anton.
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I really want to go to St Anton as I was there 10 years ago and tore my ACL the first morning so didnít really get to see much of it. Really finding it hard to get accommodation for anything remotely reasonable though.
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@maddness, I have seen some good prices via sunweb have you tried there?

Nb they include lift passes.
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@maddness, if youíre dead keen to go to st Anton again but not fussed about the apres try Stuben as a base. Quicker link to Zurs than those staying in St Anton. It is quiet at night though. Some funky looking apartments there close to the Hubertushof hotel.
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I really want to go to St Anton as I was there 10 years ago and tore my ACL the first morning so didnít really get to see much of it. Really finding it hard to get accommodation for anything remotely reasonable though.


Good man!! Toofy Grin
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As above, Westendorf would fit your requirements well. Quite close to Munich (a 2 hour train journey (2 changes) - Westendorf has its own station just outside of town, or quicker drive/taxi if traffic is OK - should be fine outside of peak Saturday hours). Ideally situated between Ski Welt and Kitzbuhel (the link to Kitz is a short bus - 5 min - that goes every few minutes. Not a hardship at all and the Ki-West run down to the bus is one of the best reds I know anywhere).

Huge area, with lots of reds and blues. Some more interesting blacks on the Kitz side. On the Ski Welt side, some criticise short runs, but these are really just the linking runs between areas - there are lots of really wonderful swoopy long runs down to the various resort levels. Local Westendorf area has some really fun long runs as well. Lots of excellent mountain huts, as long as you like the standard Austrian fare.

Most accommodation is within a couple of minutes walk of the lifts, and ski hire shops offer deposit at base of lift. No buses required. Hotel Garni Austria recommended (only does B&B, though). I have done a few short breaks here, without problem getting accommodation.
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@maddness, I know it's not Austria but have you thought of somewhere completely different. We had an excellent 4 day trip to Zakopane earlier this year using an Irish airline to get there. Other areas to look at would be Slovakia (the Tatra again) or perhaps Slovinia (which was, once Austria).

As to flying to Bergamo. My climbing friends used to fly there to goto the Dolomites, but it always struck me as a long drive.

Do Lufthansa not do flights from Dublin to Innsbruck?
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I really want to go to St Anton as I was there 10 years ago and tore my ACL the first morning so didnít really get to see much of it. Really finding it hard to get accommodation for anything remotely reasonable though.


Generally most don't rent out for less than a week until just a few days beforehand otherwise a whole week is blocked for them.

Befriend a tea totaler, invite them on the trip and rent a van assigning them as driver. Offset rental & parking costs by staying in cheaper accomodation outside the resort. Decide on the resort last minute, follow the snow. Toofy Grin
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No flights to Innsbruck from Dublin unfortunately.
I know what Iím looking for is difficult enough,Iíve been organizing trips for the last 15 years and have the same problems every year!
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Don't really see any problems, Often do non-closest airports, and odd dates.
Just the logistics of munich to St Anton to fix really I guess. you should be able to find accomodation for 4-5 days, as its off peak at end of Dec. I'd just hire a couple of cars or an 8 seat minibus (8 will be the max on std license). The St Anton Website will help you search for accomodation, Might be easier to log a request on the websiyte, and see what comes back.

Zurich is mayne 25 mins closer if that helps atall.
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We are looking for end of January for this trip. Iím not worried about getting to resort itís just getting accommodation thatís not very expensive thatís much harder.
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If you want to go to the Arlberg then ZŁrich is better than Munich, I am sure there are direct flights from Dublin? Accommodation at a reasonable price can be difficult to secure in St Anton especially for a group looking for less than a week, though late January should be possible. Some of the villages like Pettneu might be a better option (I seem to remember coming across a new hostel hotel which was good value) which of course does mean ski buses but they are well organised and regular. I think Pettneu a better option than St Jakob simply because there a a few bars in the village rather than having to go into St Anton. Most Austrian places involve buses, ski in / ski out = expensive.

Quick access from Munich is not so easy. Ski Welt might be a bit limiting for good skiers after a day or two though easy to get to KitzbŁhel (it is linked but better to go at least one way by bus/train/taxi). Brixen is the ideal spot and if you choose accommodation with care can avoid buses. Kirchberg is cheaper than KitzbŁhel though avoid the Hahenkamm weekend (though skied there last season that weekend and the pistes were empty) but the lifts are a bit out of the village. The Zillertal resorts might be a possibility, Hoch Zillertal is less well known (not as far down as Mayrhofen) so maybe easier to find accommodation. Saalbach - Hinterglemm is a fair way from Munich perhaps look at either Fieberbrunn (make sure near to lifts otherwise a long way out of the village) or Leogang easier transfer and maybe cheaper.

I am guessing you have tried the tourist office websites, you might try emailing them directly saying what you want to see if they can point you at any likely accommodation. I just tried searching in St Anton for 4 nights end of January for a double room and found lots starting at around Ä65 / room / night. It might be you need to pick a couple of pensions near each other.


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No flights to Innsbruck from Dublin unfortunately.

According to opodo there are 4 a day in January.
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johnE wrote:
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No flights to Innsbruck from Dublin unfortunately.

According to opodo there are 4 a day in January.


No direct flights
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Looking at Zurich to St Anton now or possibly Ischgl. Thanks for all the help.
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Fly to Geneva.

Ski in Verbier, Switzerland.

Way better than anything in Austria.
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It depends on your plane times but we once did Munich to Solden (Oetztal) by train and bus and were able to ski on the afternoon of arrival and morning of departure. There is probably a higher possibility of short term accommodation there than Obergurgl further up the same valley (so longer transfer time too). Solden would tick your skiing requirements.
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Fly to Geneva.

Ski in Verbier, Switzerland.

Way better than anything in Austria.


And way more expensive too.
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Fly to Geneva.

Ski in Verbier, Switzerland.

Way better than anything in Austria.


And way more expensive too.


You get what you pay for.

It is currently the best resort on Earth.
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hmmm. swiss beir or Austrian beir?

Austria every time.
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Whitegold wrote:
maddness wrote:
Whitegold wrote:
Fly to Geneva.

Ski in Verbier, Switzerland.

Way better than anything in Austria.


And way more expensive too.


You get what you pay for.

It is currently the best resort on Earth.


I wouldnít have a clue first hand what Verbier is like but it gets big wraps.
Whatís so good about it compared to other resorts and does it suit many kinds of skiers or just experts?
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OP wants to go to Austria.
Having skied both Verbier and (a bit of) Austria if OP goes to Austria s/he need not worry that s/he has made the wrong decision.
Verbier will still be there for the next foray 😀
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Iím sure Verbier is just amazing...so are the loads of other resorts I could mention...we want to go to Autrria though...clue was in the first post.
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@maddness, What days are you looking for? For example, Thursday to Sunday might be difficult, but Wednesday to Saturday might be doable.
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As an owner in Austria, it would be difficult to allow a four day break at this early time unless you were happy to arrive/depart on a Saturday and pay the seven day charge. How long you stay in between would be irrelevant.
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@jafa, That's exactly what I was thinking.
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@maddness, What days are you looking for? For example, Thursday to Sunday might be difficult, but Wednesday to Saturday might be doable.

We are going for four nights so Wednesday to Sunday is the best compromise otherwise Tuesday to Saturday is four days off work as apposed to oinoy three.
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