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@clarky999, yeah you can.
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So I went out for a mini tour yesterday, used my Auras, F10's and Cochise boots, same setup as last year apart from the boots. I have no idea if I am a lot fitter than the last time I went out or if the Cochise boots are a lot lighter than my older Technica Crushes but it felt a hell of a lot easier than the last time. The Auras are also pretty good, I would still prefer them to have a bit of rocker but I don't find the lack of it as much of a problem as when I am skiing lift served off piste which has been skied out, thawed,refrozen etc., and in reality they are a pretty good size for most conditions, 177cm 94mm underfoot. So my desire for new, shiny things has been quenched by actually getting out and using my old, less shiny things. I have no idea what the Auras weigh, less than 2kg/ski anyway, a 2012 Volkl Nanuq weighs 1.6kg/ski although I'm not sure if these have more metal than the Nanuq.
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Today touring I was reminded of how people wanting ultra light MTB's would shell out loads of dosh when loosing 5kgs would be a lot cheaper, and then when riding in muddy conditions it was all pretty irrelevant as the bike ended up having about 10kg of mud stuck to it.

Today I was skinning in fresh powder and my skis kept on ending up with a fair volume of snow on top of them which added a fair amount of weight, trouble is you kick the snow off with a flick, snow goes up in the air and down your neck rolling eyes
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Well made my first step and was fitted with some shiny new Fischer Transalp vacuum fit boots by Ski Bartlett. The boots are a bit lighter / less burly than I was thinking of but I was seduced by their advice that they would really suit my slightly odd feet (one size difference between them, high arches but narrow heels). The whole shell (clog, cuff, as well as liner) is moulded using air pressure which usefully takes the volume out round my heels and the shorter foot. Even before they were moulded they just seemed to suit my posture. Fischer do make a more hike and ride, swappable sole boot but it doesn't have tech inserts.

Skiied them this weekend with the prophets and freerides. Very comfortable close fit. They are a bit soft but by the time you have cranked them up completely manageable. Surprised me that I really only noticed the softness in chopped up stuff. Of course the pistes are excellent at the moment but found I could set high edge angles and link short carves on the piste - so pretty precise even with freerides. I do wonder how I'd managed in chopped up crud on wider skis - could get a bit wobbly - but maybe better bindings might help.

Anyway - think boot reviews are a bit pointless, its so personal, but I would say the fischer shell moulding process is worth thinking about if you have awkward feet.
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@clarky999 "On hard snow Markers ski far far better than traditional dynafits. No idea about the Beast - or the Kingpin for that matter."

I first toured on Line SFB's (the 2010 115mm waist model) with Baron's, so excluding the boots and skins something like 3.5kg per foot. I then went to the opposite end with DPS Wailer 112 Pure's with Plum Guide's (Dynafit clone 660g a pair), which were just over 2Kg per foot. The difference was massive, not just due to overall weight, but as is often mentioned, the toe pivot is much more natural, and you only lift you boot, not the binding frame with each step.

I then wanted ski brakes, and tried the Plum brakes which were worse than useless, causing pre-releases, so switched to the Radical ST's (1100g a pair). The weight of the Radical's is actually less once brakes, and heel pad had been added to the Guide's. The Radical's also had the all imported forward heel pressure spring, allowing more ski flex without release.

This season I put Beast 16's on my new skis, and of course they are heavier at around 1900g a pair, but to my mind they ski just like an alpine binding, and tour as well as the Guide/Radical. The weight per foot is back up to around 2.8Kg per ski, but the peace of mind in not having to worry out pre-release or locking the toe for security is more than worth it.

And yes, you can get 130mm Dynafit crampons, they come in bling gold.
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PowderAdict wrote:


This season I put Beast 16's on my new skis, and of course they are heavier at around 1900g a pair, but to my mind they ski just like an alpine binding, and tour as well as the Guide/Radical. The weight per foot is back up to around 2.8Kg per ski, but the peace of mind in not having to worry out pre-release or locking the toe for security is more than worth it.


That's really good to know, thanks.

Have to say I'm EDIT: NOT particularly worried about pre-releasing from my TLT Speeds anymore, it's just the feel on hard snow.

Do the Beasts really feel like an apline binding on hard chattery windboard and sastrugi? I'd happily take the extra weight in exchange for my feet not feeling like Ralph Harris's vibrating musical board thingy on that stuff!


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buying touring kit feels a bit like buying a mobile phone - the stuff out now looks great but you have this nagging feeling it will be looking like old tech in 18 months' time Confused
so I am waiting until they release a binding that is as light and cheap as my Dynafit TLT Speeds, but skis like a Look P18... another 18 months I reckon Madeye-Smiley
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I had Marker Lord SP's last year, Quiver killer mounted with the Guide's as I did it want to buy Beasts on their first production release year. With the Guide's hard packed chop was teeth rattling, but with the Lord's it was ok. Under the same snow conditions I am not sure I could tell the difference between the Lord and the Beast. Previously I was always aware I was on touring binding on piste, now with the Beast I don't even think about it. Off piste where touring bindings are supposed to be used, the lighter weight options are fine.

It is always wise to stay away form first production year of touring binding, as most have issues. For example the toe pins on the Marker Kingpin come out, and again the toe wings/pins on the Diamir Vipec had to redesigned. Dynafit withdrew the Radical 2.0 before its release due to heel issues. So far only the G3 Ion bindings have proved to be fault free.
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@PowderAdict, thanks

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clarky999 wrote:
Haggis_Trap wrote:
Weathercam wrote:
Have any of you ever bought crampons for your Markers.........discuss Little Angel


why do you need crampons for skiing downhill in resort ?
has anyone ever bought skins to go with their markers Wink


Laughing


Is it because ski crampons look good in the back of an SUV?
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clarky999 wrote:
Have to say I'm particularly worried about pre-releasing from my TLT Speeds anymore, it's just the feel on hard snow.


I came out of mine on piste, Kooky was behind me at the time. Luckily the only damage was bent brakes and my ego getting hit hard with embarassment (it was the first run of the day). Embarassed

.... but the beasts won't fit my boots (Dynafit TLT6's) so will probably go back to an alpine setup for faster piste skiing.

Are the radical 2's going to be any better in this pre-release respect?
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DB wrote:
clarky999 wrote:
Have to say I'm particularly worried about pre-releasing from my TLT Speeds anymore, it's just the feel on hard snow.


I came out of mine on piste, Kooky was behind me at the time. Luckily the only damage was bent brakes and my ego getting hit hard with embarassment (it was the first run of the day). Embarassed

.... but the beasts won't fit my boots (Dynafit TLT6's) so will probably go back to an alpine setup for faster piste skiing.

Are the radical 2's going to be any better in this pre-release respect?


Oops, sorry, meant to say NOT particularly worried about pre-releasing
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
What is the issue between the TLT6 and the Beast, the mounting of the heel plate?

The Radical 2.0 will have more heel elasticity and the rotating toe should help prevent pre-releases. It won't be up to the Beast levels, but better than the existing lightweight / middle weight range.
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PowderAdict wrote:
What is the issue between the TLT6 and the Beast, the mounting of the heel plate?


See the comments ...

"One important question is that Dynafit does not recommend TLT6’s for it’s use with the new “beast” binding. They say no to install the beast heel tech fittings on TLT6’s, TLT5’s, DyNA’s, and PDG’s because of the lack of material to assure a secure fix of heel fittings."

https://www.wildsnow.com/10766/dynafit-tlt-6-p-first-retail-look/
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Thank you DB.

I knew the Mercury's and Vulcan''s were fine. I guess when Dynafit does lightweight it really does remove every perceived extra gram of plastic Shocked
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I feel bad about buying my second set of Atomic Trackers at 1500g per binding Laughing
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