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Frosty the Snowman,
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| There is a small outcrop off Alderney called Tosser |
Your point being...?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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And I have the 20m breast stroke, but I've never stroked a 20m breast 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| carled wrote: |
| any idea how much farther south Serre Che is than the "biggies" as you describe them? .. |
Well, for those that are interested...
Meribel is at latitude 45 degrees 25 minutes 0 seconds
serre Chevalier is at latitude 44 degrees 53 minutes 0 seconds
Based on 69.2 miles per degree of latitude, Serre Chevalier is 36.9miles further south than Meribel.
But then, I'm thinking that you didn't really want to know that did you?
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What the flying f*ck is it with the witchhunt boys? You want to start getting really nasty, then bring it on. We've been here before and done the whole "let's gang up on someone, slap our thighs, chortle at the lardy arse head's unfunny jokes and generally try and create a little clique" thing before, haven't we?
If any of you can read at an age above your shoe size, try actually reading what I've posted. I responded to an inane question (yes it WAS inane, read it again and tell me how that can be held as being anything other than daft. Then tell me how snowhound claiming a degree in physics and meteorology in any way counts for anything other than making his original question even more stupid.
It's been done to death on here before that this isn't a place that wants to be seen as overly pc in its dealings with people. I'm quite happy to deal with what I think is supposed to count as witty banter on here (and I'll turn a blind eye to the rugger-bugger back slapping "have another cigar old boy" responses that the witty responses generate among the "in crowd") as long as you guys are happy putting up with the same thing in response and not trying to seek refuge in the ranks of bleating "yes men" that gather in cliques all around this bloody message board.
Ray Zorro... what the hell is your point? Are you trying to tell me that 40 miles is insignificant in the alpine region when resorts either side of the same mountain can have totally different conditions? Stop trying to curry favour with the intelligencia on here by simply scooping up your pitchfork and joining the lynch mob, there's a good chap. You're better than that. This has degraded into a personal slagging match (which I'm more than happy to continue when I have a dull moment, but I sense may be truly boring for those who have the sense to keep out of it) when I objected to the mollycoddling pc brigade trying to pretend that Snowhound had posed anything other than a stupid question.
Frosty... for a while now I've rather believed you to be loving yourself too much... If your chortling buffoonery of a response of "superb" to Chappers' slightly sub-Wilde wit is anything to judge by, you have more lard clogging your sense of humour circuits than I at first thought. If you want to call me a tosser, then have the guts to call me a tosser, don't try and gather your chums around you first and hide behind pathetic sniping.
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..........the Foehn is certainly dominating currently......
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OK then. As I seem to have 'started' this;
1. Personally not part of any 'in-crowd'-I only joined up a few days ago after falling upon this website by accident. I didn't know you have to reach 'n' posts before people started being civil.
2. Degree is valid. Actually did the same degree at the same time at the same uni as Helen Willetts on the tely. Didn't mention it to show off, but just to make the point that I do know something about the generalities of weather patterns-the whys/wheres/hows etc. But this was not my original point...see next;
3. Original question equally valid. Just wanted to know if Serre Chevalier-where I skied last March-had any special weather/geography which meant it had plenty of snow at the moment, particularly as the other Southern Aps areas had also had very little snow. A specialist Q which I hoped people who knew it well could answer-so thank you T-Bar. I know it often has the opposite snow pattern to other French resorts-just wanted to know why!
This seemed a perfectly reasonable question- a bit sorry I asked now!
PS As a teacher, I am fully capable of handling myself against all-comers. And I don't need protecting. By anyone. I am well used to dealing with attention-seekers who go around looking for fights for the sake of it.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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snowhound,
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I didn't know you have to reach 'n' posts before people started being civil.
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You certainly don't!
Sometimes the post counter is counter productive and the need for it has been debated here a few times. (There are a couple of posters who are embarressed about their high count) However, I think it is part of the standard software the site is 'built' on so we are stuck with it.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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guys, take it elsewhere please. meet up in a pub, have a pint, shake hands or PM each other, but keep it off the board!
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You know it makes sense.
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lifes to short ............................
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| snowhound wrote: |
3. Original question equally valid. Just wanted to know if Serre Chevalier-where I skied last March-had any special weather/geography which meant it had plenty of snow at the moment, particularly as the other Southern Aps areas had also had very little snow. A specialist Q which I hoped people who knew it well could answer-so thank you T-Bar. I know it often has the opposite snow pattern to other French resorts-just wanted to know why!
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Serre Che is often referred to as sitting in a 'snow pocket'. St Anton, the same. They both appear to get consistently above-average snowfalls during a season. Something to do with weather patterns, but I forget the exact reasonings behind the theory.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Yep. Apologies Snowhound. I bit unnecessarily hard and let my stupid sarcasm streak rise to the surface. You may have noticed...
This time of year sees lots of rather daft questions on here that could only be answered with the aid of a crystal ball and yours was pigeon-holed into that category when I scanned through. I then saw red when you dangled your credentials in my face and bit harder than I intended, then ended up being subject to a bit of a witchhunt. You didn't deserve all of the abuse I gave you and I didn't deserve what I got in return, but that's just one man's opinion. You managed to combine a few personal Bete Noirs of mine (snowfall prediction and the "big" ski areas to name but two) into a very short amount of message board and I shot from the hip before thinking.
I read a (now frustratingly difficult to find) article online about two years ago about how certain weather patterns give Serre Che the snow whilst nearby Montgenevre can miss out entirely. It made uncommon sense at the time and if I ever find it I'll post it... It was something to do with warm air from the med meeting a channeled (by the surrounding topography) jet of extremely cold air and this causing the precip to fall as snow on the facing slopes and at lower altitudes than nearby areas that didn't benefit from the cold "down draught"... It does have an opposite effect though when the area misses out entirely when the snow dumps heavily nearby.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Okay so my turn. The tosser thing was rather infantile. carled, deserves an apology.
His, and boredsurfin, have got me thinking about the challenges we face as a successful community and perhaps a debate is woth having on further points that will arise from this.
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carled, I have been in Serre Che when Montgenevre has had over a meter of snow in 36 hours, and the poor guys on our coach, who'd had virtually no snow all week were unable to ski it.(Lifts had been shut the previous day) On that occasion (our only half-term trip) we skied only in Monetier cos the snow and the crowds were so bad elsewhere, and Montgenevres meter was only a couple of centimeters. Googling for the weather patterns article brought up this thread though. 
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OK, cheers all, including carled, And apologies for all the wasted time and electrons spent on this argument!
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brian
brian
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Helen Beaumont, are SC and M on opposite sides of some mountains ?
snowhound, did you skive your lectures on orographic precipitation and rain shadow ? 
Because the mountains along the French/Swiss/Italian border areas are so high you can get some brilliant examples of that in the alps (between Chamonix/Courmayeur or Zermatt/Cervinia for example).
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brian, the area is brilliantly covered by Google Earth at high res - perfect for tilting on its side and seeing the topography.
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| carled wrote: |
Ray Zorro... what the hell is your point? Are you trying to tell me that 40 miles is insignificant in the alpine region when resorts either side of the same mountain can have totally different conditions? Stop trying to curry favour with the intelligencia on here by simply scooping up your pitchfork and joining the lynch mob, there's a good chap.
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Hmmm, I'm not sure why you are going off at me, I had not intentionally "sided" with anyone (or that I had sided against you as I have enjoyed reading some of your posts), though I had felt that your responses had been unnecessarily harsh on both Snowhound and then Timberwolf.
You asked a (rhetorical?) question, I just answered it as it was one that caught my interest as being preferable to the project that I was completing in my final moments in the office. I should have been working, but some things are more interesting than sizing steel beams...
Glad to see that good humour has broken out again.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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brian, of course they are, hence the differences in weather.
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You know it makes sense.
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| stanton wrote: |
| Apparently they are never wrong. |
Neither are politicians, journalists, sports pundits, web forum posters,...
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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(bites tongue hard before replying...) Stanton... See this website: http://www.randi.org/ ? Do these "old locals" a favour and let them know about it. You see, if they really are "never wrong" then they can predict with certainty when the snowfall will occur and Mr. Randi will hand over a million dollars! It's amazing the number of clairvoyants, psychics, dowsers, David Ickes and so on that are able to perform their "abilities" in their own space and yet fail miserably when tested scientifically...
Personally I treat claims like this (theirs, not yours, I understand that you are just reporting what you've been told, but I do have to wonder why you believe the story - although you are free to believe what you want - so don't mind me...) in the same way as any predictions. Make enough predictions and you'll always have someone who's right. See old Jonas there? He TOLD us last September that it would snow in December! (and he also said it wouldn't snow in December, it would rain in December, it would rain mice in December and so on... then selective memory kicks in and people remember only what they want to)
Stanton - you post a lot of good stuff on here, but all you are doing with a post like "the word is not good, they are never wrong..." is scare mongering and needlessly worrying people who may be susceptible to believing what (in my opinion) is a load of mumbo-jumbo claptrap. NO-ONE knows what the coming season will bring weather wise and for every prediction of an awful winter, there is a prediction of a great one too, you just have to know where to look.
Anyone reading Stanton's report on the old locals of Interlaken and being worried need fear no more! I, the great Carled, can exclusively reveal this morning that the runes revealed in my puppy's doo-doo predict that this will be a fantastic snow season with an abundance of nightly snowfalls and daily sunshine starting, ooh, on November 29th. BE CONFIDENT... my puppy's doo-doo has NEVER been wrong in all the winter seasons he has been predicting!
Be happy. 
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Poster: A snowHead
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carled, Brilliant
Can you ask the great one if I will be succesful with a current job application ?
I Understand that I might have to wait for tonight's walkies for an answer...........
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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stanton, I much prefer that second guy that you spoke to  .
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If anyone can read French there are some interesting forecasts (both short term and long term) on the meteo section of www.skipass.com forums. There seem to be about half a dozen French guys who take their weather forecasting rather seriously but it's quite informative and sometimes entertaining.
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carled, you may scoff, but some of these old folks have a fairly impressive accuracy record compared with the official forecasts. Meteoschweiz is notoriously inaccurate, especially in its timings. Having said that, I choose to believe Meteoschweiz at the moment as it's forecasting snow down to 600-900m in the next 24 hours
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eng_ch, hear, hear. Generally the old mountain men (who've been noticing weather patterns for maybe 50+ years) are pretty accurate. Let's hope in this case they're wrong. BTW I found that I had no idea what the weather was going to do in Val T, which I found very unsettling, whereas here I can make a pretty accurte gues at least for 24 hours or so. 
I'm surprised that Serre Che would get snow from the SW. It will hit us first - surely? We always reckon on SW to bring our major snow. NE or E and the snow seems to arrive in Serre Che and get stuck there!
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The one certainty about thw weather is that no one knows for sure
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FAQ
We dont want that now do we 
Apparently they are never wrong.
. FWIW the twinge in my knee, and the throbbing in my groin tells me that there will be at least 12 inches across the Alpes by Saturday and my underpants are too tight. 