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A £65m snow dome for Swindon.

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@rjs, I've never been. Does it work? How's the skiing n snow condition?
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rjs wrote:
AL9000 wrote:
Just put a simple n cheap warehouse type structure on top with a couple of chairlifts.

That is how Landgraaf is constructed. There isn't even anything under the snow, just frozen ground. If you drill down a bit too far when setting gates you bring up dirt.


I read an article a few months back about planning permission/plans in Merthyr Tydfil for a leisure centre area that included an indoor slope that would be built on the side of the valley.

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/business/business-news/new-plans-unveiled-massive-ski-15095387

Longest slope in the UK at 500 meters.

Whether it happens or not is another matter, but that's a similar distance than Swindon, and would be a huge asset.
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https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/17955926.lack-cash-delays-swindons-270m-snow-centre/

PLANS for the £270m ski centre at North Star have been hit with a fresh delay over funding.

Developer Seven Capital admits it hasn’t yet got all the money it needs to begin work on the scheme, which many hope will transform Swindon’s fortunes.

The company was given permission for the scheme last November and said it wanted to start work in spring this year.

But now it says it still hasn’t got the investment needed and hopes be on site in the first few months of 2020.

The Adver understands that Swindon Borough Council has agreed to give the company more time to get the necessary funds.

A spokeswoman for the company said: “We haven’t quite got the full funding for the project yet, although we are not far off.

“Unfortunately sometimes, projects of this size take longer than anticipated for a number of reasons and that’s been the case here.

“But we are very close to finalising everything and being able to proceed. Once we’ve done that, then realistically, it’s three or four months before work starts, so we could be on site and working in February or March next year.

“It is a delay, but we are definitely going ahead – there’s no chance that we won’t be building the snow centre.”

Previously when it said that work would be delayed, Seven Capital did not blame Brexit for the problems raising the cash. But it did say that uncertainty in the business climate in the UK, including concerns over Brexit, could have contributed.

As well as the ski slopes, the complex to go up across the road from the Oasis Leisure Centre will feature an Imax cinema and shops, bars, cafes and restaurants.

The spokeswoman added: “The centre is two thirds pre-let already, with companies signing up to take units and there are more going to agree very soon.”

Recently the borough council’s cabinet member for the town centre Dale Heenan took a decision on the matter which is confidential but is understood to be about giving Seven Capital more time to get the money together.


Coun Heenan said: “The £270m North Star complex is Swindon’s biggest ever investment in leisure, and will change our town for the better.

“It has been a difficult six months, and I remain determined the council does what it can to support Seven Capital in making this major development a reality.

"Through confidential discussions, the council and Seven Capital has identified a way forward and I'm very pleased that major companies are signing leases because it shows the confidence behind the scheme.

“We all want to see diggers on site, but we need to be patient and to give the developer a bit more time to put the building blocks in place for what will be a game-changing attraction that will make our town a great place to live, and a regional destination.”

But other councillors are concerned.

Liberal Democrat councillor Stan Pajak asked for Coun Heenan’s decision to be referred to the council’s Conservative cabinet for ratification.

And ward councillor and leader of the Labour group Jim Grant said: “This is another blow to Swindon’s economy.

"We’re seeing Honda and Morrisons going, and now a further delay to the snow centre. Weeks ago the council said everything was fine and it’s clear it’s not.”

“There can only be two reasons for this inability to get the capital needed. One is Brexit, and the other is the business community clearly has no confidence in the council administration’s ability to deliver regeneration projects. We’ve seen nothing other than delay and failure on regeneration.”
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@no_snow_in_swindon, thanks
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Combination of the retail collapse, the impact of austerity, a weak pound and the potential Brexit calamity are holding back new mixed retail schemes across the country and destroying the highstreet.
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16th January 2020
https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/18163478.work-270m-indoor-snow-centre-swindon-weeks-away-starting/?fbclid=IwAR3fGfTT4eCh3XtYXPF6W5Rm3_Z3tq_tPmIrcT2vmVfoOmtKWH2BhdQRWAM

Diggers and construction workers should be on site at North Star to start work on a massive new indoor snow centre within a few weeks.

Developers Seven Capital were given planning permission to build the £270m indoor ski slope and entertainment centre in late 2018 and had hoped to start work on the cleared site across the road from the Oasis leisure centre in April or May last year.

That was delayed because the company had some difficulty in raising the cash necessary to build the complex – those problems were blamed on uncertainty in the British business and finance scene caused, at least in part, by Brexit

Before Christmas the company said it was very close to finalising the deals it needed.

A spokesman said: “Once we’ve done that, then realistically it’s three or four months before work starts, so we could be on site and working in February or March next year.

“It is a delay, but we are definitely going ahead – there’s no chance that we won’t be building the snow centre.”

The company reiterated that message this week, saying nothing had changed in its position.

If work does start within the next few months, then the snow centre should be open by 2022.

The company and Swindon Borough Council see the complex and being a major part of the regeneration of the area around North Star and a boon to the town’s economy – it is expected to attract more than three million visitors a year when up and running.

The centre will have two ski and snowboarding slopes of 170m and 75m size with real snow

There will be the largest IMAX screen in the UK at a new 12-screen Empire cinema and 19-lane bowling alley with an arcade, café and bar.

Seven Capital announced that with Gravity Active Entertainment, which runs trampoline parks, and KFC taking units at the proposed development it has pre-let two thirds of the space available, with a guaranteed £700,000 annual income for the centre

The area around the snow centre site has also been zoned for housing in the council’s draft local plan.

Cabinet member Dale Heenan assured councillors no houses would be built on the site until the snow centre had been constructed, calling it a ‘red line’ condition of the agreement between developer and council.
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@no_snow_in_swindon, you may have to change your name. For purely selfish reasons I’m quite excited about this
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After all it is free Go on u know u want to!
That’s great news for us West Country folk, even if it is a bit of a wait!!
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For purely selfish reasons I’m quite excited about this


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Bring it on! Swindon and Merthyr Tydfil, more the merrier
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Bring it on! Swindon and Merthyr Tydfil, more the merrier


Amen!

Hoping there'll be some kind of a race club there, been wanting to get in to race training for a while now! Fancy the 1hr drive to Swindon to do that indoors more than the 25/30 minutes to Mendip Snow Centre dry slope!
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Great news, will be good to take the grandkids there to learn
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@no_snow_in_swindon, Thanks for the update.
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Why would they not go to 185m to make it the biggest in the UK?
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More delays after cashflow troubles....

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/18237668.80m-funding-shortfall-revealed-270m-snoasis-plan/?ref=fbshr
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@no_snow_in_swindon, Thanks. A smidge of HS2 money will sort it.
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Any update on whether this ever started? Or has been officially canned? Or still teasing but don't have the cash?
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Any update on whether this ever started? Or has been officially canned? Or still teasing but don't have the cash?


No work has ever started on it to date. (I drive past the site daily on my way to work)

It's now been over two years since planning was approved and many many years since it was first proposed. I'd be surprised if it gets built in the current climate
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And in the meantime the Oasis has gone out if business.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/19/oasis-band-name-swindon-leisure-centre-to-close
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@no_snow_in_swindon, @tomj, thanks for the updates. A shame but not that surprising
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